ESPN’s Chad Ford reports that the front office wants Jabari Parker but owner Dan Gilbert wants Andrew Wiggins. Gilbert has since taken to Twitter to nix that rumor.
However, we’re still no closer to an answer.
So, with that being said, what do you think the Cavaliers should do. And what do you think will actually happen?
Is it Parker? Wiggins? Someone else? Trade?
Jim Pete: Boy Steve, this is a special draft. I really believe that there are eight or nine guys that are guaranteed to be really, REALLY good, including Joel Embiid.
I don’t want to get into them all, but when you focus your attention on Jabari Parker and Andrew Wiggins, you are talking about two guys with great character and are extremely hard workers. You truly can’t miss with either one, so I’m ecstatic at WHATEVER the Cavs choose to do at the top, with regards to Wiggins or Parker.
What would concern me with the Cavs is if they truly don’t know who they are going to pick first 24 hours before they pick. You can’t go into a draft hedging your bets. Sure, the Cavs have watched Embiid go down to injuries, and then hired a coaching staff, but hopefully they KNOW where they are going to go, and are just waiting for trade offers to come in.
I’m right on the fence as to whether or not the Cavaliers will keep the pick or trade down. I just don’t know how you turn down a trade to the Sixers that involves No. 3and No. 10 and a piece for the No. 1 pick…if they really want Wiggins. I truly don’t know how you turn down a trade with Orlando for No. 4 and No. 12 and a piece. I think they could parlay that second pick in either of those deals with their upper level second rounder, and move up a couple spots to gather another top nine guy.
Who knows, but I agree Steve, it will be fun. I slightly prefer Wiggins, think they go Parker, but ultimately think that they are 50-50 on a trade. Here’s my question:
Do you go for the Superstar at the top, or do you go with two potential stars in a trade…or…do you leverage a LeBron James signing and go after a Kevin Love?
Orbanek: I think you hit the nail on the head there Jim in regard to the talent in this draft. I remember last year when the Cavaliers won the lottery being upset thinking, “Darn, I wish they could win the lottery next year instead.” Then, low and behold, they ended up winning it anyhow.
Similarly, I also share your skepticism over the fact that there are reports out there that say the Cavaliers still have not come to a decision. Furthermore, I read just a bit ago that they wanted to get Dante Exum in for a late workout? Don’t get me wrong, I like Exum and all, but isn’t this something that should have happened a week or two ago?
I am open to them trading the top pick to Philadelphia for the No.3 and No. 10 picks. However, that’s where that conversation needs to begin. I don’t want to hear anything about the No. 3 pick and Thad Young in exchange for the No. 1 pick. Doesn’t this team have enough power forwards?
Sticking with that point, that’s also why I believe the Cavaliers need to select Andrew Wiggins. I really like Jabari Parker as well, but one of the key themes discussed by General Manager David Griffin is finding the pieces the fit together best. This team has an influx of power forwards, and that’s also where I would see Parker; I am not confident he can play the small forward position. Plus for a team that is totally lacking in defense, Wiggins is an immediate boost.
Although, I am a big believer in the idea that where there is smoke, there is fire. It’s telling to me that we keep hearing all of this trade talk. Now, personally, I would rather they stick with the pick and select Wiggins unless they get a monster offer. That said, I still think Love is in play, and I am sure there are several other offers out there as well.
Samuel Chapman: On the Kevin Love front, it appears as if the Golden State Warriors have the inside track on him. Chad Ford has said that a Klay Thompson, David Lee package for Love has already been agreed upon, they just have to bang out some logistics.
Unless someone is willing to give Cleveland the sun, moon and stars, the Cavaliers are making this pick. Andrew Wiggins is the type of player that caused the Philadelphia 76ers and Milwaukee Bucks to play at putrid levels to increase their chances to obtain him. Andrew Wiggins should be the No. 1 overall pick today.
If the Cavs opt for Jabari Parker, I worry that between him and Kyrie, the ball movement on this team could be nonexistent. Two Blue Devils trying to one up each other, while the rest of the team lead by Dion Waiters chimes “buddy ball.” Wiggins could spend his rookie season focusing on his perimeter defense while “Uncle Drew” inevitably dribbles away the shot clock. Wiggins is also a better candidate to see time at shooting guard than Parker, which could really come in handy if Coach Blatt finds that Dion Waiters is better served in his familiar sixth man role.
What will be really interesting is to see how far Joel Embiid falls in this draft. Will he make it past Orlando at No. 4? Could the Cavs trade down with the Sixers at 3 to grab Embiid? How far does he fall until David Griffin tries to trade and get him? Could the Cavaliers potentially walk away with BOTH Kansas freshmen? Joel Embiid certainly isn’t off the Cavaliers draft radar. For instance, say Embiid falls to the Sixers at 10 or the Magic at 12. Does David Griffin try and acquire Joel Embiid from the Sixers or Magic?
Pete: The Kevin Love situation will certainly be a fluid one as we roll through the day with the draft looming. Ric Bucher reported a couple of hours ago that Minnesota owner Glen Taylor and Golden State owner Joe Lacob talked to KLove last night, and couldn’t come to any sort of agreement. It’s officially in stall-land right now, but you know how things can change as the day progresses.
As to the draft Sam, you mentioned the “sun and the moon,” and you could argue that if the Orlando rumors are true and they offered the four and 12 pick, as well as Aaron Afflalo, they’ve already been offered the sun and the moon.
Of course, there’s debate as to whether or not the No. 4 and the No. 12 and Afflalo ARE as valuable as No. 1. I think they could be, but if you pass on a talent like Wiggins and Parker, then you better nail four and 12. I have some faith in Griffin’s talent evaluation though, so I wouldn’t be upset with that at all. If you take Embiid there and he’s healthy down the road, you get the runaway steal of the draft.
Of course, I’d prefer BOTH Kansas boys, as you mentioned, and I alluded to. I just don’t see him dropping past four or five, and according to Ford and Bill Simmons, there are teams clamoring for both the one, and for somewhere down the line, to take Embiid.
On a sidenote, I don’t think there is a scenario in which Jabari Parker is the type of player you described. If he signs with the Cavs, he’s immediately their best pure offensive player, and pretty efficient as well. Ford himself talked about his mentality, and how he’s likely the best “teammate” in this draft.
Take that for what it’s worth.
Steve…I’m disappointed. You haven’t yet talked about your favorite reason to take Wiggins. HE’S CANADIAN! He has a familiarity with both Anthony Bennett and Tristan Thompson. Should that be taken into account, that is, if the Cavs plan on keeping Thompson and Bennett after the next month or so?
Orbanek: Ha ha Jim. You hit the nail on the head. The only thing better than two Canadians on an NBA team is THREE Canadians!
Nonetheless, this is going to be an exciting day and night. As for the rumors regarding Afflalo and the No. 4 and No. 12 picks, I think it’s hard to believe the Cavaliers are going to find a better deal. That deal in itself might be considered the “sun and the moon.” The problem though is that I think it’s hard to know exactly where Afflalo fits. Yes, he can provide instant offense, but there are going to be a lot of players in need of minutes in that scenario, including the No. 4 and No. 12 picks.
I expect trade talks to continue well into the evening and even into the start of the draft. Also, even if the Cavaliers do go ahead and select Parker or Wiggins, I don’t think it’s a guarantee that they then don’t turn around and deal the player for something else. Say they grab Parker and then force Milwaukee’s hand. Think the Bucks would trade them a future first rounder as well as the No. 2 pick for Parker? If they’re as enamored as it seems, I don’t think it’s out of the question.
So, with that said, let’s all sit back and enjoy the exciting day ahead. The Cavaliers have now had the No. 1 overall pick three times in the past four years. Guess what? I’ve never been more excited for a draft then this one. I have a feeling I’m not alone.